MAXIMIZE WHAT YOU ALREADY HAVE
CREATOR OF GOOD ENERGY
ENTREPRENEUR + BILLING ANALYST
Kevin is one of my best friends. He resides in Brooklyn and he just wants do something that fulfills him and brings him happiness. By day he works at a top staffing agency as a Senior Billing Analyst. By night and during his free time he hosts a podcast called Coolin' Out. Taking a risk in creating the podcast helped him discover his passion. It also made him reexamine his life and realize that he already had so much to be grateful for - he just needed to maximize it.
WHAT DO YOU THINK FULFILLS YOU?
Good energy and good conversation. I'm really intrigued with how creative people go about different things and why they do different things. I like getting glimpses into people to see how their minds work, I just find that fascinating. That's why I really gravitate to podcasts because you have really genuine conversations with people and you get an inner look at their quirks and the way they operate.
WHAT IS YOUR DEFINITION OF PATIENCE?
Whatever you're striving for you just have to have the faith, confidence, and ability that you'll achieve it. But you also need to know that you're not entitled to anything and you have to work. Great things take time and you just have to know that. That's what's fascinating now with the age we live in. You have access now to everyone via social media. With podcasts everyone speaks now and you get everyone's story. A common thing with all the legends and greats is how long things take. I don't know why people still do this but everyone assumes that you just wake up and become successful. It's the hours that no one sees that you have to work for. That just clicked with me recently which is why I thought this was a good topic because I was not that person.
HOW DID YOU BECOME MORE PATIENT?
You just have moments when you're working towards things and you're achieving your goals and you're not even enjoying the fruits of your labor. You get something and your discard it instantly. You wanted it for so long. You look yourself in the mirror and you ask yourself "who are you?" "What are you becoming?" That's how monsters get created. Everything you want you're getting but I wasn't grateful for it. It was not enough. I was just becoming a miserable person. I looked at myself in the mirror and I just didn't like who I was becoming and who I was seeing. Then I wasn't getting any happiness and I was going crazy, going out partying and none of it was fulfilling. So I had to really take a strong look at myself and have a moment of self reflection. I decided that I needed to calm down a bit. I started a podcast and I found a great woman in my life. Then slowly things just changed in my life when I changed my mentality. Granted I'm far from perfect but I'm so proud of the maturation process. I wanted more but I wasn't doing the most with what I had. I was spending frivolously because I wasn't focused. I was unfulfilled and didn't really have any drive. I work and come home but now I have passions.
"everyone assumes that you just wake up and become successful. It's the hours that no one sees that you have to work for."
SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT BEING IMPATIENT CAN HAVE NEGATIVE EFFECTS?
Yes because your whole focus gets warped and you fall into thinking "why don't I have this?" and "I should have this." When you grow up and people tell you that you're smart and that you can do anything, you think "ok I should have this now - instantly." But again, why should I? Everyone is smart, it's about figuring out how you're going to set yourself apart. You need to work for it. It's crazy to think that living in New York means you're going to get everything. That's just not how it works.
DO YOU CONSIDER YOURSELF A PATIENT PERSON NOW?
There are definitely still moments where I'm impatient but all around I'm a more patient person. Like when we launched the podcast I would look at the numbers every single day. I would be consumed by it. Then I started listening to Gary Vaynerchuk he reinforced that things take time. Nobody knows who you are so you have to put your name out and put the work in. So that helped. In life I'm just more patient with people. I would say moments where I'm not patient gravitate to the pod again because I'm really passionate about the podcast. I don't like depending on other people unless I have to and with the nature of the podcast I do it with two of my best friends and you can't do it all by yourself. If somebody says that they're going to do something, I expect that you do it or at least check-in because we all depend on each other for things.
"Everyone is smart. it's about figuring out how you're going to set yourself apart."
WHAT ADVICE WOULD YOU GIVE TO PEOPLE WHO STRUGGLE WITH BEING PATIENT?
It's a cliche but gratitude. Like you have to really sit down and note the things that you take for granted everyday. I had to sit down and become more grateful for everything. You have great friends, great family. You hear all these abuses about family. My core family is just nothing but love. I can coexist in New York City. I can have my own place. I can spend time with my friends and still save money. There's just so much I was overlooking and sometimes it just takes a while to click. Sometimes you just have to twirl in that darkness you know? Whatever you're doing is not working and you have to come out of that. If you want to change, then change. Another thing is that I'm not a complainer. The bad thing is that nobody really knows when you're going through stuff. But I'm also well aware of what I need to to do to be better. I would just say if you know better, do better. You know when you're doing bad, you feel it in your gut. Don't go against your first intuition.
WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO IMPROVE IN YOUR LIFE?
Right now the primary thing is stripping away. Just really cutting back on things I don't need. I love food, I love getting a fancy cocktail but those things add up. This money could go elsewhere. I'm not where I want to be but I'm way better than I was. That just motivates me to continue taking that money and just investing it further in the pod or things that matter to me.
"in taking my biggest risk I found my passion. I found something that really livens my spirit."
WHAT IS THE BIGGEST RISK YOU'VE TAKEN AND DID IT PAY OFF?
My biggest risk was starting the pod. We just talked about it for so long and we were just scared of how it was going to be received and I'm glad I did it. It just opened up a new layer to me. Like the level of consistency I show to the pod made me reexamine other aspects of my life. It's like week in and week out I make a commitment to do this thing and I pour a lot into it - time-wise, money-wise, and it doesn't feel like work. So in taking my biggest risk I found my passion. I found something that really livens my spirit.
WHAT INSPIRES YOU?
I get inspirations from different things. Like I listen to a bunch of podcasts. Obviously there's people above you so listening to their stories is motivating because they know what they're trying to do and who they're trying to become. In the immediate circle, my friend group that's really working hard and building stuff is admirable. It's different because they're not trying to maximize at work. I get inspirations from that. Sitting behind a desk is not the end all. Go for it and try.
WHAT IS YOUR ADVICE TO PEOPLE ON HOW TO LIVE A MORE CREATIVE AND MEANINGFUL LIFE?
Follow your gut. Like when I think back about the pod, I always gravitated to podcasts. Now I do it and the signs are there. Whatever you're creative or passionate about just do it. Follow your gut.
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